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Daire_Tomas
12-09-2013, 08:43 PM
Hey boys and girls! , I need a Gaming PC or laptop, thing is I know nothing about them, I want it very fast ( prob sounds noobie xD ) but better than a mac :-) my budget : 1500. Thanks

utecitec
12-09-2013, 09:13 PM
You are probably best off building your own. I did a little research and this is what as suggested to someone wanting something similar to you

CPU:
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k)
($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i)
($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard:
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45gaming)
($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-psd38g1600kh)
($52.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pd128bw)
($129.99 @ Adorama)
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001)
($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:
Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7030110p)
($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case:
Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc650dw1)
($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply:
PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-supply-ppcmk3s750)
($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404)
($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1425.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-24 06:00 EDT-0400)

nirosu
12-09-2013, 09:16 PM
i'd recommend p.c over laptop.... and secondly...

This should be in the off topic >.>

Cats_say_moo
12-09-2013, 09:17 PM
Moved since this isnt a minecraft topic.

Cats_say_moo
12-09-2013, 09:23 PM
You are probably best off building your own. I did a little research and this is what as suggested to someone wanting something similar to you

CPU:

Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k)
($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i)
($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard:
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45gaming)
($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-psd38g1600kh)
($52.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pd128bw)
($129.99 @ Adorama)
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001)
($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:
Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7030110p)
($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case:
Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc650dw1)
($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply:
PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-supply-ppcmk3s750)
($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System:
Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404)
($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1425.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-24 06:00 EDT-0400)


Now, I have been looking at building my own pc. Is there any way to know what goes where and if it is even worth getting or do you know if the setup will work? Many thanks :D

Daire_Tomas
12-09-2013, 09:57 PM
Wow lots of trouble you went to mate :P Firstly thanks,, also is this your setup , ?

BlueHat
12-09-2013, 10:00 PM
YouTube is your best friend if you've never put a PC together before. Alternatively find a friend that has done it before.

The only thing I'd change on that list would be Windows 8. Some people like it, most people I've spoken to hate it, Windows 7 is also cheaper.

A really good way of finding parts I find, is to go to Overclockers.co.uk and pick a pre-built system. They will list all of the components that they have in a system, you can then shop around and find them cheaper. It's quite a nice way of building a good quality, fair priced computer for your first time.

The important things to remember are to read everything, you'll need to ensure that your Motherboard is the right size to match the case you choose, ensure your CPU fits into your motherboard and ensure your PSU (Power Supply Unit) has the correct wattage.

Past that it's pretty much personal preference. Shop around different sites, if you're US the Newegg is a nice site. If you're in the UK then always brows scan.co.uk/todayonly (today only deals), ebuyer.com and overclockers.co.uk.

If you're looking for specific advice then just ask but in a computer everything has it's correct place and the component won't fit anywhere else. Pretty much all components come with a small manual on how to install it into the system and how to install any drivers etc. You should be fine, it's really quite simple!

honkin_pigs
12-09-2013, 10:43 PM
I would personally recommend this for your price range
http://www.digitaltigers.com/stratosphere-pro-z6.asp
for gaming it will absolutely destroy the mac you currently have, and it'll probably run teamspeak too ;)


Specs-

64-Bit windows 7 professional w/ XP mode (you do not want windows 8)
Intel Core i7-4770, Quad core, clocks at 3.4-3.9 Gh/z w/ turbo boost (4th gen)
Standard build supports 6 monitors (DVI ports), however i'd recommend only running two at 2560*1600 resolution
Dual Nvida Geforce 600 keplar graphics cards
Standard build comes with 8GB RAM, standard motherboard supports 32gb, upgrading the motherboard can allow you to install 64gb ram
128GB SSD
10x USB ports (6 USB 3.0, 4 USB 2.0)
8 channel digital surround audio


Basically it's pretty good, imo at least, however if you can get some extra money together for it then go to the customize section, and upgrade the RAM and CPU :)

lordgandalf
13-09-2013, 06:35 AM
You are probably best off building your own. I did a little research and this is what as suggested to someone wanting something similar to you

CPU:
Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k)
($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-cpu-cooler-h100i)
($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard:
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87g45gaming)
($159.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/patriot-memory-psd38g1600kh)
($52.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:
Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pd128bw)
($129.99 @ Adorama)
Storage:
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001)
($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card:
Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/zotac-video-card-zt7030110p)
($398.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case:
Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-cc650dw1)
($159.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply:
PC Power & Cooling Silencer Mk III 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pc-power--cooling-power-supply-ppcmk3s750)
($99.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System:

Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404)
($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1425.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-24 06:00 EDT-0400)


Uhm if i would buy something like this windows 8 will not be the thing to buy for a gaming rig get Windows 7 10 times better for gaming ask Gabe xD. I run all my games on laptops for me that it runs and look semi-fine its ok with me. The portability is more important than the power.

@ cyberpowerpc you cvan get this rig
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1FEG6D



*BASE_PRICE: [+1030]
BLUETOOTH: None
CAS: Thermaltake Level 10GTS Mid Tower Gaming Case w/ EasySwap HDD bays, 2x Front USB 3.0 Ports, & Headset Holder (Black Color)
CASUPGRADE: None
CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: None
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-4820K Quad-Core 3.70 GHz 10MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN: Default case fans
ENGRAVING: None
ENGRAVING_MSG:
FA_HDD: None
FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
FLASHMEDIA: None
FREEBIE_MB: 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi + Bluetooth 4.0 Combo w/ Dual Antenna PCI-E Adapter [+0]
FREEBIE_VC2: None
GLASSES: None
HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+71] (Single Drive)
IEEE_CARD: None
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD1: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard [+5]
MEMORY: 32GB (8GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory [+250] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MONITOR: None
MONITOR2: None
MONITOR3: None
MOTHERBOARD: * (4-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support) GIGABYTE X79-UP4 Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable 5, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 4 Gen3 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1 & 1 PCI
MOUSE1: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge [+4]
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Certified Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [+17]
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE PCI Sound Card [+30]
SPEAKERS: None
TABLET: None
TEMP: None
TUNING: None
TVRC: None
USB: None
USBFLASH: None
USBHD: None
USBX: None
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+0] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)
VIDEO2: None
VIDEO3: None
WNC: None
_PRICE: (+1407)

Laegluin
13-09-2013, 01:07 PM
I would personally recommend this for your price range
http://www.digitaltigers.com/stratosphere-pro-z6.asp
for gaming it will absolutely destroy the mac you currently have, and it'll probably run teamspeak too ;)


Specs-

64-Bit windows 7 professional w/ XP mode (you do not want windows 8)
Intel Core i7-4770, Quad core, clocks at 3.4-3.9 Gh/z w/ turbo boost (4th gen)
Standard build supports 6 monitors (DVI ports), however i'd recommend only running two at 2560*1600 resolution
Dual Nvida Geforce 600 keplar graphics cards
Standard build comes with 8GB RAM, standard motherboard supports 32gb, upgrading the motherboard can allow you to install 64gb ram
128GB SSD
10x USB ports (6 USB 3.0, 4 USB 2.0)
8 channel digital surround audio


Basically it's pretty good, imo at least, however if you can get some extra money together for it then go to the customize section, and upgrade the RAM and CPU :)

I would mention that in US dollars this is probably about 1800-2000$, so it's a lot more expensive. Also it comes with a sli setup, I would always try to avoid those when it comes to gaming since single gpu setups usually run smoother and more stable, not to mention that they need less power.

BlueHat
13-09-2013, 01:22 PM
I would personally recommend this for your price range
http://www.digitaltigers.com/stratosphere-pro-z6.asp
for gaming it will absolutely destroy the mac you currently have, and it'll probably run teamspeak too ;)


Specs-

64-Bit windows 7 professional w/ XP mode (you do not want windows 8)
Intel Core i7-4770, Quad core, clocks at 3.4-3.9 Gh/z w/ turbo boost (4th gen)
Standard build supports 6 monitors (DVI ports), however i'd recommend only running two at 2560*1600 resolution
Dual Nvida Geforce 600 keplar graphics cards
Standard build comes with 8GB RAM, standard motherboard supports 32gb, upgrading the motherboard can allow you to install 64gb ram
128GB SSD
10x USB ports (6 USB 3.0, 4 USB 2.0)
8 channel digital surround audio


Basically it's pretty good, imo at least, however if you can get some extra money together for it then go to the customize section, and upgrade the RAM and CPU :)


Ermmmmm only if you don't want to build one yourself, otherwise this is pretty pricey my friend. You'll probably want monitors running at least 1080p. Two or more ideally.

I would also get 16GB of ram, 8 is starting to become the 4GB now, you really need 16 if you want to keep up to date.

You don't need 10 USB ports. If you do then you're doing it worng sorry and you also don't really need that amazing quality 8 channel digital surround sound. It would be nice but you'd then need some ace speakers + headset. Honestly integrated sound works just fine and can sound awesome with the right speakers / headphones.

I would build one yourself, it's a darn sight cheaper, a great skill to have and you'll be a lot happier with it probably in the long run.

Personally I'm partial to AMD, but most people seem to prefer Intel here. There's honestly not much of a difference but AMD is far cheaper, however you can't really beat an i7 that's using Ivybridge Technology. But then you're paying quite a bit more for it. One thing to be aware of is that AMD no longer offer specific drivers for different gfx cards. They run it all through Catalyst Control Centre which is rubbish and people have problems with. But it doesn't count them out by any stretch.

Telluur
13-09-2013, 02:06 PM
I would also get 16GB of ram, 8 is starting to become the 4GB now, you really need 16 if you want to keep up to date.


You really don't need 16gigs of ram, 8 is today, and a few years to come more than enough....
Most games do not use any more than 4 anyway, this includes triple-A games.


Besided that, there is no downside to more ram, and it's not that ram is that expensive.

Daire_Tomas
13-09-2013, 06:00 PM
Guys I need a monitor too xD

Laegluin
14-09-2013, 09:34 AM
Guys I need a monitor too xD
Monitors depend more or less on what you want. I'd say decide yourself, unless you really wanna play a lot of fps, then you should consider a 120Hz monitor (they're quite expensive though, I wish I had the money for one D:)

jimred9
14-09-2013, 11:41 AM
Thanks guys for these posts as I too am picking a setup to get soon ish. Once I get my room sorted. But my budget is £500-700 and I would like 2 screens. . I'm going to have a look at pcpartpicker.com as its really helpful. Also I'd like to make it myself as its both cheaper and more fun

horsegal00
14-09-2013, 05:37 PM
First off, PC for sure. I've had issues with laptops in the past.

Gaming PC's aren't neccasary, mine isn't a gaming PC and it runs anything at a good quality

Build your own PC, thats what I did :p

TheKrafter1923
15-09-2013, 12:21 AM
Building your own would be the most effective :)

Daire_Tomas
18-09-2013, 08:57 PM
I've been told, you need a better pc for playing battlefield than I do for cod ? Is this true

Khytha
18-09-2013, 09:29 PM
Never had a laptop, as I'm a gamer, an a laptop that has my standards for gaming is costing a fortune. I have build my own pc's for the last 15 years, mainly because I want the best parts for the budget I'm on. I'm certain that you could buy a decent prebuilt pc out there, I'm just very picky with parts, so I would never get even with that :). So you say 1500$? budget, for a pc with case, monitor and I assume you have mouse and keyboard? I'll chew on that tomorrow :).

Daire_Tomas
18-09-2013, 10:15 PM
Thanks all, and yes kytha, I can go over budget a bit for a good mouse and all that, just want the main things around 1500€

Laegluin
19-09-2013, 11:13 AM
I've been told, you need a better pc for playing battlefield than I do for cod ? Is this true You'll need a better pc for battlefield at high settings, but all the builds mentioned above will be able to run bf3/bf4 at ultra settings (at about 60fps, if you prefer frame rate medium-high settings at 120fps)

rayphil
22-12-2013, 09:12 PM
Dell Ultrabooks are amazing and about Alienware laptops you don't say :D