Restricted worldedit useage rank

[honkin_pigs]

I think it could be nice for there to be a rank, where you can get access to worldedit within a worldguard with a flag ticked for it. The rank would not be a primary rank just something that allows you to have the permission, not give you an ingame rank in the tab or anything.

The way I've thought it could work is if a player proves there a good builder etc and would think worldedit could help them build they could apply for this rank etc, and upon being confirmed there then allowed to modreq for ability to use it within a worldguard, which a mod could add as a flag.

It would only be allowed in areas where it would be used to just make nice builds etc, not to benefit the user of it, for example in the creative world, where they could use it to build amazing looking things that would otherwise take months.

Mentioned it to jack and he said it could possibly be worth suggesting so heres to that.

[nirosu]

we for good builders? no. permission to let admins give WE in creative to good builders? sure.

This is a survival server... basic WE like flattening is given to vips by admins, but it is limited. The creative world could use that though.

[honkin_pigs]

as i said, it would be only given for important builds, not for personal use.

[SparkleUnidog]

I thought W/E was a VIP perk only though, to be another reason for players to get VIP?

Also, I worry that there would be SO many requests for W/E by builders and members without said new rank just because they see others get it, and they in turn get confused themselves.

[Telluur]

No. The only ones with WE are admins and above (+me&naith). Even with heavily restricted access to WE we've had serveral fuckups in the past.
Furtermore, in theory, adding this would grant all moderators WE permissions as they can add and remove themselves from WGs as they wish.

As I'm not part of the MC staff anymore I will not reject this idea straight away, although naith and stoux will probably have similair thoughts on this.

[honkin_pigs]

makes sense, just thought it'd be a nice suggestion but can see it'd have many potential fuckups, which is why i suggested it only being able to be applied within a region and not work outside of it etc, but yes, is still pretty flawed i guess.

And with the moderator thing, stoux plans on making only certain flags useable by moderators pretty soon, i beleive, so that wouldnt be as much of an issue

[lordgandalf]

Would love to have brushes and some basic cuboid and ball forms of we. It would enable me to make my wild plot or creative plot look more amazing. But on the other hand i know we most people wont thats the problem i guess

[honkin_pigs]

it'd enable me to work on things like the maps i build for the servers minigames without needing to wait for stoux or jack to help all the time, and without jack breaking my stuff with worledit beyond repair </3

[Cats_say_moo]

Could always have limits that you cant do worldedits past 10-15 blocks, Limit blocks you can worldedit (Making it so all liquids unable to worldedit). Having it take a vip grant every time you do a worldedit so 3 worldedits a day?

Also in times of the server cant handle just have it post in chat (Unable to do worldedit due to possible world saving or Server is Lagging). <- A way to toggle tat in cases of Admins W/Eing things in

[Someb0dy]

In vip terms I would prefer if W-E would be done by "professionals" :D , in terms of distinguished builders it would depend on what they would like to do, then they could be allowed to use W-E(admin like perms) for a certain period of time(anyway isn't there a possibility of a rollback at almost any instance?) such as flying is permitted to some good builders for certain builds :).

[honkin_pigs]

rollbacks work in all worlds apart from pvp, minigames and spawn, which people would clearly not be given world edit in for the sake of humanity, i mean im suprise we trust jack with it there ;o

[naithantu]

Worldedit is very very very dangerous. Even small worldedits have the ability to cause big memory leaks, server crashes, corrupted chunks etc.
We've had dozens of server crashes due to worldedit in the past and that was when it was only being used by a couple of admins.
And then there's another problem with this: You can't check who worledited something (logblock does have something for this, but it makes worldedits cause even more lag and also greatly increases the size of the already big database).
I could go on about this for a while, but tl;dr: if we do this then it will crash the server someday.

[Stoux]

Didn't have the time to respond to this yet, however most of what I wanted to say has already been said.
So: Rejected.